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Okay, a lot of folks here are concerned about Solavirum's non-neutral editing behavior. So the difference between a site ban and topic ban is small.
Binksternet talk , 21 January UTC I've thoroughly explained my position above, though I will make an abstract version of it. I do not deny the genocide.
That quote was taken out of context and a simple look at the issue on hand will give the colleague a view of the whole picture.
In the meanwhile, yes, I did deny it in the past, about two-to-three years ago. Opinions and views change overtime. I've not even edited the Armenian Genocide article.
The off-wiki links provided by the others users are worrying. I've been editing on Wikipedia for about half a decade now, and I've actively participated in attracting other users to the platform, thus, having an off-wiki activity about Wikimedia.
I don't choose the headlines either, most of my off-wiki work is concentrated on notifying the public about how the encyclopedia works, such as explaining reliable sources and neutrality.
The general "non-neutral behavior" must be proven with diffs. The topic is controversial, and editors with different backgrounds, especially ones from the conflicting parties have different positions.
It is best for Rosguill , who was a meditator during most of the war's active phase, to comment on the issue, if my behavior is bannable, or not.
Several other editors have opposed my ban above. I've done my part during the said time period, and have been collaborative. You're saying both me and HistoryofIran have been canvassed into this discussion?
And your reason for that is that we have contacted the user outside of Wikipedia 4 months and a month ago respectively? Want to make sure I understood this right, if I didn't, please feel free to elaborate.
In your case, given that you're both apparently Facebook friends and also frequently collaborate on talk page discussions,     it's certainly a strong possibility.
Your permanent topic ban has only recently been lifted , so I advise to be extra cautious with such accusations.
The policy asks says unless there is evidence. I have not made any accusations, but I've provided proof that Solavirum is canvassing in this discussion, that you both have contact outside Wikipedia, and that you both frequently push for the same resolution on talk pages.
All of this is important to be aware of. It would be evidence if you had clear proof e. What you've said, unfortunately, is only a personal opinion.
As Binksternet : pointed out, Solavirum's genocide denial, which he considers "personal views", prevents being able to constructively contribute to Wikipedia.
A: "You deny the genocide"; B: "No, I don't"; A: "You deny the genocide". Do you want me to deny it at this point? The fact that the user filing this report also seems to have his own personal biases on most Armenian-Azerbaijani articles as well leads me to believe such a ban is less about improving Wikipedia and more about removing the "competition".
I just tried to make analyze and find a solution. I'm trying to be neutral as soon as possible as an uninvolved person on this event maybe except the same interest on topics, or edited Nagorno-Karabakh War.
I tried to understand what is the exact problem. First of all, as far as I see, the first argument was the user voted as "Keep" on a discussion.
However, at the same time; another user who is I know with their neutrality Mccapra , said the same: "All seems fine to me. This is an article about POVs held about the issue.
That is quite different from having an article pushing a controversial POV which is not allowed. A second argument was the user's genocide userbox which is an understandable concern due to Saotura's userboxes, and these are insultive.
As the users said, the user included such unacceptable userboxes which also I don't accept personally , as "This user denies Armenian Genocide".
But that event was months ago nearly eight months ago , and the user changed his mind. Plus, I and everyone in here should accept that everyone did mistakes in the life and returned from their own mistakes as soon as possible.
If someone says "No, the user did a lot disruptions for preventing edits from genocide articles"; then please show evidence with diffs.
However, the other claims such as the user supported other areas' independence and therefore should be banned is absurd, that's a personal opinion like "This user supports Kurdistan independence" or "This user supports Catalonian independence"; or "this user supports Armenian nationalism".
About wolves, I wish to say that it's generally seen a symbol for nationalism see Banknotes of Turkey , Grey wolf mythology and Asena , and the organization that mentioned only adopted the name which is Grey Wolves organization , and has links to MHP , plus even banned in Azerbaijan after , and defined as a terrorist organization.
Not every Turkish nationalist like the similar situations in other countries does support MHP, or is far-right, or approve their actions; see CHP as an example.
About the Facebook coverage, I wish to say that this is that Facebook page's opinion, and does not involve the user's acts.
Also, the user never declared his support for that page. Please try to not make personal attacks. About Saotura event, which is I also watched closely due to an article discussion , I agree that the user refused Armenian Genocide and I also accept and support their ban per WP:NOTHERE after looked to their contribs while the discussion is ongoing.
Especially after everyone saw the evidences, a lot of people supported this ban or didn't make discussion after evidences.
Again, Solavirum claimed that the user is newbie joined one month ago at that time according to Solavirum , and didn't get enough warnings; and therefore opposed.
As my opinion, everyone knows that the people in Turkey and Azerbaijan looks frowned towards Armenians, and vice versa, the people in Armenia looks frowned towards to the people that identify themselves as Turks.
That's my opinions and analyses. I wish to remain as an oppose per WP:AGF , and I wish to say that I couldn't be able to find a strong evidence for banning among conversations.
If I missed out something, I'm sorry; because I wrote this in one or two hours. Also sorry if I wasn't able to clarify correctly.
His social media pages, full of voluminous ultranationalist militarist hateful stuff, are really worrisome, enough for safeguarding team and social services to be involved, if they exist Azerbaijan.
This is the user who claims "past is past" and whom his comrades justify saying "it was just a few months ago". Instead of introspection and using the chance for atonement, there is complete denial and attacking those who criticized him.
This 'gem' was posted on Solavirum's Twitter page just 10 days ago: [REDACTED] Now, one thing that should not be tolerated on Wikipedia is nacizm, fascism and the likes of those anti-human views.
Citing from Wikipedia:No Nazis mentioned above: It is a common perception — based on our claim of being the encyclopedia anyone can edit — that Wikipedia welcomes all editors.
There is also a misconception that because maintaining a neutral point of view is one of Wikipedia's five fundamental principles, administrators would be acting contrary to this if they blocked a racist upon learning of their public self-identification.
Because of this, many neo-Nazis, neo-fascists, white supremacists, white nationalists, identitarians, and others with somewhat-less-than-complimentary views on other races and ethnicities[a] — hereafter referred to collectively as racists — believe they are welcome to edit Wikipedia, or that they can use Wikipedia as a propaganda tool, so long as they stick to the letter of our policies.
This is not true. Racists are not only unwelcome here on Wikipedia, they are usually indefinitely blocked on sight if they express their racist ideas on-wiki.
There is direct evidence that the editor publicly denied Armenian Genocide , supported banned Turkish group Grey Wolves , posted hateful speech against Armenians and so on, being careless on his social media and Azerbaijani Wikipedia and being slightly more careful on English Wikipedia, but remaining the same person.
Saying "everything was in the past" is an excuse to stay here for longer, just sticking tighter to the letter of WP policies.
The best proof of that is that no regret was seen and no apology was offered for that unacceptable behaviour. Unless he has a diagnosis of dissociative identity disorder , when one identity cannot control the other one, he should be banned.
He may be given a chance for ban removal in the future, when he becomes an adult, but editing Wikipedia with this much racial hatred in mind is just unacceptable.
WP guidelines for junior editors 1 , 2 have been grossly ignored. Tolerance should not result in Paradox of tolerance.
That is completely inappropriate. Nor is it appropriate to wield age like a cudgel, please refrain from doing this. CMD talk , 23 January UTC Some editors here were worried that the presented evidence so far was mainly about off-EnWiki activities.
The Diaspora Committee and Karabakh is Azerbaijan have awarded year-old Aykhan Zayidzade, who is fighting against Armenians on Wikipedia. The State Committee for Work with the Diaspora of the Republic of Azerbaijan awarded Aykhan Zayidzadeh, an expert of the Gorgud Wikipedia Methodological Club, who fought against Armenians in the English section of Wikipedia during the Tovuz events and the Patriotic War, for his contribution to the information struggle within the Karabakh iz Azerbaijan National Platform.
He was awarded a letter of appreciation by the State Committee and the leadership of the Karabakh iz Azerbaijan National Platform.
I have created an article about the bombing of Ganja in English Wikipedia. However, vandalism cases are expected to be many already.
That's why it would be nice if others besides me could control this. Only I control the article of Tovuz fights in English Wikipedia as an Azerbaijani.
I know it's a volunteer thing, but why not support it? I've been tearing myself up since the 12th, I can say I'm not sleeping. Believe me how many disinformation attempts are.
I don't write this for you to thank, it really needs to focus on such things. So far, about 10 thousand readers of the article in Enviki.
Everyone here had explained you several times that off-wiki stays off-wiki. Your involvement in my life is worrying, we are here for Wikipedia, not my Facebook, my Twitter, my age, or anything else.
Your personal level attacks on me shall not go unnoticed. So would be a ban from all Turkic-related articles. The problematic diffs above relate only to the Armenian genocide there has been some mentioned problems with the wider topic of Armenians, but not that many diffs.
Per my statement above on wp:battleground issues, my preferred remedy would be a commitment to tone down personal insults and battleground mentality.
Other potential paths might be interaction bans which would go both ways or much smaller topic restrictions as opposed to full bans.
CMD talk , 23 January UTC CMD Solavirum aka Aykhan Zayidzadeh is apparently an expert of the Gorgud Wikipedia Methodological Club fighting Armenians in the English section of Wikipedia during the Nagorno-Karabakh war and receiving an award for the State for that.
It is against the very definition of battleground principle. See my expalnded vote comment. Regards --Armatura talk , 23 January UTC Oppose bans per Qahramani44 and CMD.
This report has taken a dangerous turn and has turned into a competition to find things User:Solavirum has done in their private life or social media to use them against the user in this report.
None of the people who support a ban has provided any real reason for this other than the claim that the user denies the genocide, which Solavirum has denied at least 3 times in this report by now.
None of the aforementioned users who added that he "promoted Turkish nationalism" have also been able to provide sources for this, amounting to baseless accusations.
CMD rightfully notes this is steering into if not already becoming a battleground. The almost detective like investigations into an editor in their off-wiki, personal life, is really unacceptable, and disgusts me.
I cannot believe anyone would even step as far as to do that. This whole topic area is extremely sensitive and full of conflict; that will never change.
However, when looking over these diffs, I, similar to CMD, can only find information relating mainly to the Armenian Genocide. Even suggesting a siteban is stupid, at most this would warrant an IBAN.
I weakly support a temporary IBAN perhaps 3 months or more , but would prefer to find a solution to the broader problem of Armenian-Azerbajani conflicts, to prevent this sort of situation occuring in the future.
That a child is used for state propaganda? It is against the very definition of battleground principle, and many other principles that you would know better than me.
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